Tyler wakes up from a surprise nap just in time to record, and your hosts share stories of falling asleep during class.

Amanda's grad school anxiety and COVID anxiety are peaking, but she's so close to the end of the semester. She shares an update on her family's health and both your hosts get frustrated with people not taking the pandemic seriously enough. It's kind of a bummer, so we put in chapter markers so you can skip ahead when you get too sad.

Amanda gets bashful and flattered after getting some surprise recognition and kindness on-air from the hosts of the Make Do podcast, and your hosts talk about their inner conflicts when contemplating using the internet for professional marketing or a space to be open and vulnerable.

(Recorded on Saturday, November 14, 2020)